Let’s just hope that it is accurate! He wouldn’t be the first leopard to change his spots once he reached the ultimate position of power. He wasted no time saying that he will support ecumenism. There are good ways and bad ways to go about it. We shall see where he plans to take the Church. The rumor about Levada has shaken my faith in him to the core.
Our Lady of Fatima, pray for us!
Carrie,
Our faith is in Christ Jesus, and we believe that the same Christ Jesus, through the power of the Spirit, leads and guides his vicars on Earth. Let us trust that the Lord and His appointed vicar on earth know better than we bloggers. It is your constant pessimism of late that causes me concern. Dear Carrie, “Be not afraid!”
Boy, I return from the show, all pumped up, and Carrie just drags me into the dumps, and derails my train of thought:(
Thanks a lot, Carrie!
OK, I just look out the window of my hotel here in San Juan, PR, where they adore El Papa (by the way), took in a spectacular view of the Caribbean, and now I feel better!!
Where was I….
Oh, yeah..
Thanks for the link, Dom. I thoroughly enjoyed it! Can’t wait to forward to my in-laws!!
For pope, dialogue does not mean toning down doctrinal teachings.
For some reason, I can’t get this to download on my computer. Could someone please summarize it for me? Thanks!
Holy Chit! I love it!
Carrie: I recommend an ice cold martini, then a prayer of thanksgiving to the Blessed Virgin, then another martini. Repeat until you’re grateful for Benedict XVI.
Far Right ecu-paranoia is just as bad as Far Left ecu-luv.
Dom: That WAS hilarious.
Midwestmom: Hey, watch your language before I give you a boot upside the headerodox. lol.
Orlandoseminarian, apparently you haven’t read the history of the Popes. They have certainly not all been stellar defenders of Catholicism. Some of them led downright immoral lives. Remember, even popes have free will.
When you’ve finished with the history of the popes, read the book of Revelation, particularly the parts about the anti-Christ.
They led immoral lives and yet throughout their immorality, while bishop of Rome, they never changed Doctrine and messed with the fundamental truth of the Church.
I’m not worried.
Dom, thanks. that was awesome.
Carrie Little… The sky is falling… The sky is falling…
Give the Holy Father a break… so far, so good…
Let’s not worry until he gives us just cause.
1. Some pope lived immoral lives and didn’t defend Catholicism.
2. Benedict XVI is Pope.
3. Therefore, he will live an immoral life and not defend Catholicism.
If I remember back to my Liberal Arts education… this if FLAWED LOGIC.
Notice I love to use …
This just in: shocking, SHOCKING truth revealed about Saint Peter’s successors:
Some of them led downright immoral lives.
More on this late breaking story as it develops.
Meanwhile, we continue to follow reports regarding the rumored, albeit highly dubious, reports of immorality among Mankind In General.
In a related news, reports are coming in alleging that Peter I Actually Denied Knowing Jesus. Stay tuned!
That was great. I’m guessing it had sound? My computer speakers aren’t hooked up. Great video though.
Carrie,
The Douay-Rheims is hardly the epitome of Biblical scholarship or translation. As a matter of fact, it is a translation (Latin to English) of a translation (Greek to Latin) with a translative slant favoring piety more than accuracy (NB the translation of Gk. presbyteroi into Latin as sacerdote, then to English as priestnet.com 192.168.1.1 2005-05-12 11:29:12 2005-05-12 15:29:12 Actually the Douay-Rheims Bible you have in your hands dates back only about 150 years. Catholic Bibles in languages other than Latin were virtually unknownichrist theories have no place in Catholic thought because they are not authentic interpretations of the texts they supposedly interpret. We ought not let them influence exegesis of Revelation, nor let them color our understanding of Godthe expectation of the simple, and especially of them of the circumcision, brings in a certain man who is a magician, and most expert in sorceries and enchantments of beguiling craftiness; who shall seize for himself the power of the Roman empire, and shall falsely style himself Christ…by the lying signs and wonders of his magical deceit having beguiled the Jews, as though he were the expected Christ, he shall afterwards be characterized by all kinds of crimes of inhumanity and lawlessness, so as to outdo all unrighteous and ungodly men who have gone before him…And after perpetrating such things for three years and six months only, he shall be destroyed by the glorious second advent from heaven of the only begotten Son of God, our Lord and Saviour Jesus, the true Christ who shall slay Antichrist with the breath of His mouth, and shall deliver him over to the fire of hell.
You will next find from St. Augustine:
Christ will not come to judge quick and dead unless Antichrist, His adversary, first come to seduce those who are dead in soul
This has nothing to do with the topic of this thread and I’m tired of it. Please take the doomsday end-of-the-world discussions to your own blogs or to email. Any further entries on this topic on this thread will be deleted.
(I try to post one fun thing and it has be taken down the dark despairing road.)
Holy Chit! What a bummer!
The official date of publication for the King James Version (which some of our Protestant brethren think Jesus used! ) is 1611. The count varies, but it was translated by a committee of 70 to 100 scholars using two sets of manuscripts. For the Old Testament, they used the Mesoritic Text. This was a preservation of the Hebrew Scriptures by a group of Jewish exile/scribes who also invented and added the vowel marks so that the Hebrew could be sounded out even after the language fell into disuse. Because this group was a remnant of the Jews scattered after the AD 70 destruction of Jerusalem and persecuted on account of the Christians (who, at the time, still claimed to be Jewish), they excised from their Bible anything that wasncomment_author_url>https://www.bettnet.com 192.168.1.1 2005-05-12 22:25:25 2005-05-13 02:25:25 That’s okay. I know that sometimes you reply before reading all the way to the end of the thread. You get the last word, though.
“The Douay-Rheims is hardly the epitome of Biblical scholarship or translation. As a matter of fact, it is a translation (Latin to English) of a translation (Greek to Latin)”
Funny though how as a general rule the Douay-Rheims translation-of-a-translation is generally more faithful to the original that the direct-from-the-sources NAB.
(When my then-non-Catholic wife was taking Biblical Greek in college, she regularly used to check her translations against the KJV, DR, JB, RSV, and NAB. It didn’t take long for her to decide that the NAB was just out in left field, and that their work only loosely qualified as “translation” at all. Example: “The flesh is willing, but *nature* is weak.” C’mon, folks, would it have killed you to have translated “sarx” as “flesh”? Similarly, in the OT, “I will remove your hearts of stone and give you natural hearts? *Natural* hearts? Whatever happened to “hearts of flesh”? The translators seem to have regarded the faithful as too stupid to understand metaphors, so they had to dumb down the language rather than translating it accurately.)
Let’s just hope that it is accurate! He wouldn’t be the first leopard to change his spots once he reached the ultimate position of power. He wasted no time saying that he will support ecumenism. There are good ways and bad ways to go about it. We shall see where he plans to take the Church. The rumor about Levada has shaken my faith in him to the core.
Our Lady of Fatima, pray for us!
Carrie,
Our faith is in Christ Jesus, and we believe that the same Christ Jesus, through the power of the Spirit, leads and guides his vicars on Earth. Let us trust that the Lord and His appointed vicar on earth know better than we bloggers. It is your constant pessimism of late that causes me concern. Dear Carrie, “Be not afraid!”
Boy, I return from the show, all pumped up, and Carrie just drags me into the dumps, and derails my train of thought:(
Thanks a lot, Carrie!
OK, I just look out the window of my hotel here in San Juan, PR, where they adore El Papa (by the way), took in a spectacular view of the Caribbean, and now I feel better!!
Where was I….
Oh, yeah..
Thanks for the link, Dom. I thoroughly enjoyed it! Can’t wait to forward to my in-laws!!
For pope, dialogue does not mean toning down doctrinal teachings.
http://www.catholicnews.com/data/stories/cns/0502878.htm
For some reason, I can’t get this to download on my computer. Could someone please summarize it for me? Thanks!
Holy Chit! I love it!
Carrie: I recommend an ice cold martini, then a prayer of thanksgiving to the Blessed Virgin, then another martini. Repeat until you’re grateful for Benedict XVI.
Far Right ecu-paranoia is just as bad as Far Left ecu-luv.
Dom: That WAS hilarious.
Midwestmom: Hey, watch your language before I give you a boot upside the headerodox. lol.
Orlandoseminarian, apparently you haven’t read the history of the Popes. They have certainly not all been stellar defenders of Catholicism. Some of them led downright immoral lives. Remember, even popes have free will.
When you’ve finished with the history of the popes, read the book of Revelation, particularly the parts about the anti-Christ.
They led immoral lives and yet throughout their immorality, while bishop of Rome, they never changed Doctrine and messed with the fundamental truth of the Church.
I’m not worried.
Dom, thanks. that was awesome.
Carrie Little… The sky is falling… The sky is falling…
Give the Holy Father a break… so far, so good…
Let’s not worry until he gives us just cause.
1. Some pope lived immoral lives and didn’t defend Catholicism.
2. Benedict XVI is Pope.
3. Therefore, he will live an immoral life and not defend Catholicism.
If I remember back to my Liberal Arts education… this if FLAWED LOGIC.
Notice I love to use …
This just in: shocking, SHOCKING truth revealed about Saint Peter’s successors:
Some of them led downright immoral lives.
More on this late breaking story as it develops.
Meanwhile, we continue to follow reports regarding the rumored, albeit highly dubious, reports of immorality among Mankind In General.
In a related news, reports are coming in alleging that Peter I Actually Denied Knowing Jesus. Stay tuned!
That was great. I’m guessing it had sound? My computer speakers aren’t hooked up. Great video though.
Carrie,
The Douay-Rheims is hardly the epitome of Biblical scholarship or translation. As a matter of fact, it is a translation (Latin to English) of a translation (Greek to Latin) with a translative slant favoring piety more than accuracy (NB the translation of Gk. presbyteroi into Latin as sacerdote, then to English as priestnet.com
192.168.1.1
2005-05-12 11:29:12
2005-05-12 15:29:12
Actually the Douay-Rheims Bible you have in your hands dates back only about 150 years. Catholic Bibles in languages other than Latin were virtually unknownichrist theories have no place in Catholic thought because they are not authentic interpretations of the texts they supposedly interpret. We ought not let them influence exegesis of Revelation, nor let them color our understanding of Godthe expectation of the simple, and especially of them of the circumcision, brings in a certain man who is a magician, and most expert in sorceries and enchantments of beguiling craftiness; who shall seize for himself the power of the Roman empire, and shall falsely style himself Christ…by the lying signs and wonders of his magical deceit having beguiled the Jews, as though he were the expected Christ, he shall afterwards be characterized by all kinds of crimes of inhumanity and lawlessness, so as to outdo all unrighteous and ungodly men who have gone before him…And after perpetrating such things for three years and six months only, he shall be destroyed by the glorious second advent from heaven of the only begotten Son of God, our Lord and Saviour Jesus, the true Christ who shall slay Antichrist with the breath of His mouth, and shall deliver him over to the fire of hell.
You will next find from St. Augustine:
Christ will not come to judge quick and dead unless Antichrist, His adversary, first come to seduce those who are dead in soul
This has nothing to do with the topic of this thread and I’m tired of it. Please take the doomsday end-of-the-world discussions to your own blogs or to email. Any further entries on this topic on this thread will be deleted.
(I try to post one fun thing and it has be taken down the dark despairing road.)
Holy Chit! What a bummer!
The official date of publication for the King James Version (which some of our Protestant brethren think Jesus used!
) is 1611. The count varies, but it was translated by a committee of 70 to 100 scholars using two sets of manuscripts. For the Old Testament, they used the Mesoritic Text. This was a preservation of the Hebrew Scriptures by a group of Jewish exile/scribes who also invented and added the vowel marks so that the Hebrew could be sounded out even after the language fell into disuse. Because this group was a remnant of the Jews scattered after the AD 70 destruction of Jerusalem and persecuted on account of the Christians (who, at the time, still claimed to be Jewish), they excised from their Bible anything that wasncomment_author_url>https://www.bettnet.com
192.168.1.1
2005-05-12 22:25:25
2005-05-13 02:25:25
That’s okay. I know that sometimes you reply before reading all the way to the end of the thread. You get the last word, though.
“The Douay-Rheims is hardly the epitome of Biblical scholarship or translation. As a matter of fact, it is a translation (Latin to English) of a translation (Greek to Latin)”
Funny though how as a general rule the Douay-Rheims translation-of-a-translation is generally more faithful to the original that the direct-from-the-sources NAB.
(When my then-non-Catholic wife was taking Biblical Greek in college, she regularly used to check her translations against the KJV, DR, JB, RSV, and NAB. It didn’t take long for her to decide that the NAB was just out in left field, and that their work only loosely qualified as “translation” at all. Example: “The flesh is willing, but *nature* is weak.” C’mon, folks, would it have killed you to have translated “sarx” as “flesh”? Similarly, in the OT, “I will remove your hearts of stone and give you natural hearts? *Natural* hearts? Whatever happened to “hearts of flesh”? The translators seem to have regarded the faithful as too stupid to understand metaphors, so they had to dumb down the language rather than translating it accurately.)